757 Wreckage
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The story...

There was no 757 wreckage at the Pentagon.

Our take...

There are photos around of wreckage that may have come from Flight 77. We’ve found these primarily at http://rense.com/general32/phot.htm and www.pentagonresearch.com (click on each one for a larger view, then click Back to return here).

Debris fragments

Debris fragments

More debris fragments

More debris fragments

Fuselage letter "c"

Fuselage letter "c"

Fuselage c in the background

Fuselage c in the background

Engine remains

Engine remains

Wheel rim

Wheel rim

Fuselage fragment

Fuselage fragment

Landing gear?

Landing gear?

Tyre tread

Tyre tread

APU door?

APU door?

Twisted metal

Twisted metal

Mechanical debris

Mechanical debris

From a video

From a video

Compressor rotor

Compressor rotor

Lettered debris

Lettered debris

Exit hole fragments

Exit hole fragments

Moussaoui trial exhibit

Moussaoui trial exhibit

Photographing debris

Photographing debris

Carrying debris

Carrying debris

Fuselage piece

Fuselage piece

Assorted debris

Assorted debris

Debris fragment

Debris fragment



We also found a brief video showing a worker lifting up debris, while the narrator says: “the wreckage of Flight 77 was being examined”. There are a few pieces that look like they came from the fuselage, plus some other fragments we’ve not seen before.

Smelter News
http://www.smelternews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=27

(Click the image to see the video. It’s Quicktime, unfortunately, apologies if that’s a problem, but we didn’t want to degrade it further by encoding it into another format).

There is disagreement about what these images show, with various sites saying (for example) the engine or wheel rim are too small for a 757, perhaps a better fit for a Global Hawk, or maybe were planted (see http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm, http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1075, http://www.911-strike.com/engines.htm). 

On the other hand, the photo source sites tend to support the 757 hypothesis. A May 2006 Aerospaceweb article agrees:


rb211a


...the above image shows a diagram of the high pressure system within the RB211-535 engine. Also included are the objects identified in the Pentagon wreckage and their relative locations within the engine. As discussed in the main article, all three of these pieces of debris are identical matches to or at least consistent with the components found in the Rolls-Royce RB211-535 turbofan aboard a Boeing 757.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

Witness reports offer some corroboration.

"Members of Congress have been shuttled to the site to inspect the damage. Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) made the trip on Thursday. She saw remnants of the airplane.

''There was a seat from a plane, there was part of the tail and then there was a part of green metal, I could not tell what it was, a part of the outside of the plane,'' she said. ''It smelled like it was still burning.''"
www.suntimes.com/terror/stories/cst%2Dnws%2Dpent16.html

When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/sept01/2001-09-14-pentagon-usat.htm

Burkhammer spotted lime-green pieces from the interior of the plane...

Peering at the wreckage with their helmet lights, the two spotted an intact seat from the plane’s cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached. Then they saw two odd-shaped dark boxes, about 1.5 by 2 feet long. They’d been told the plane’s “black boxes” would in fact be bright orange, but these were charred black. The boxes had handles on one end and one was torn open.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3069699/

References to fragments of metal appeared in some surprising places, like Masonry Magazine:

"On October 12, we started taking the stone off the building. We took down approximately 2,400 pieces of stone, a lot of which had melted aluminum from the plane embedded in it.
http://www.masonrymagazine.com/8-02/rising.html

And then we have this particularly detailed account from John Judge, referring to a flight attendant friend of his who had flown the Flight 77 route before.

"She saw parts of the fuselage of an American Airlines plane, a Boeing 757 plane... She recognized the polished aluminum outer shell, an unpainted silver color that is unique to American Airline planes, and the red and blue trim that is used to decorate the fuselage. She saw parts of the inside of the plane, which she easily identified since she flew and worked in them for years. Upholstery, drapes and carpeting she could identify by both color and design. The soft carpeting and padding of the inner walls had a cloud design and color she recognized from American Airline planes, though it has since been replaced. The blue coloring of drapes and carpet were also specific to the 757 or 767 larger planes, and were not used on the smaller planes. Seating upholstery also matched the AA 757 planes, including the blue color, tan squares and hints of white...
One area of fuselage had remaining window sections and the shape of the windows, curved squares not ovals, was also distinct to the 757's she had flown. She also saw parts with the A/A logo, including parts of the tail of the plane. Smaller A/A logos and "American" logos are also on the planes and she saw parts of those...
She spent approximately 15 minutes in the crash area looking at parts of the wreckage, all of which she recognized as coming from a Boeing 757 American Airline plane, the same planes she flew regularly. She did not see any rubber, only metal pieces of fuselage, engine parts and sections of the inside of the plane".
www.oilempire.us/pentagon.html

Some people have criticised this account, because Judge’s article generally only refers to her as a “friend”, never by name.

Judge... created an apparently fictional entity, in the form of an unidentified, but supposedly dear friend of his who just happens to be a flight attendant for American Airlines, and just happens to regularly fly the route flown by Flight 77 that fateful day, but just happened to have taken that particular day off so that she survived and now has insider information, unavailable to anyone else, that Flight 77 really did crash into the Pentagon that day.

This mythical person has served Judge well for the past three years, enabling him to sidestep any and all substantive questions concerning the evidence anomalies with a pat answer that goes something like this: "Well, you know, there were hundreds of witnesses, and my friend says that it really did happen the way the government says, so it must be true."
April 2005
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr68e.html

But in reality this “fictional”, “mythical” person isn’t unidentified at all. She’s T Carter, she spoke a little in public about her experiences at a COPA 2002 meeting, and you can hear her for yourself at http://www.parapolitics.info/copa/copa2002gallery/ . Obviously this doesn’t prove her account is correct, but at least we should move on from the “fictional entity” claims and consider the story properly.

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